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  1. Published on: 18/07/2019 06:36 AMReported by: roving-eye
    Road safety action plan to explore if graduated driver licences should be introduced in England.

    New drivers could face limits on what they can do on the road, to ease them into a lifetime of safe driving.


    The government will commit in its road safety action plan, to be published later this week, to explore further whether graduated driver licensing — or a similar scheme — should be introduced in England.


    These schemes could put restrictions on new drivers, such as a minimum learning period, not driving at night, or not driving with passengers under a certain age in the car.


    One in 5 new drivers crashes within their first year on the road, and so any changes would be designed to help reduce this number and improve road safety.


    Road Safety Minister Michael Ellis said:


    We have some of the safest roads in the world but we are always looking at ways to make them safer.


    Getting a driving licence is exciting for young people, but it can also be daunting as you’re allowed to drive on your own for the first time.


    We want to explore in greater detail how graduated driver licensing, or aspects of it, can help new drivers to stay safe and reduce the number of people killed or injured on our roads.

    Graduated licensing schemes already operate in New Zealand; New South Wales and Victoria in Australia; New York and California in the USA; Ontario and British Columbia in Canada and in Sweden.


    Previously these schemes have been rejected due to concerns that it would adversely affect the ability of young people to get on in life — potentially restricting education and jobs.


    However, conducting further research means the Department for Transport can build an evidence base to fully understand how graduated driver might work.


    Currently, new drivers have their licences revoked if they accumulate 6 points within the first 2 years — equivalent to points for using a handheld mobile phone while driving or 2 speeding offences.


    The government changed the driving test in December 2017 to reflect modern-world driving conditions, including adding a satellite navigation section.


    Learner drivers are now also allowed to travel on motorways with an approved driving instructor to acclimatise new drivers to these roads.


    Motorcyclists in the UK have a similar scheme to graduated driver licensing as young bikers are restricted to less powerful bikes.


    Any changes to licensing will be consulted on before being introduced.

     

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  3. Little Londoner says:18/07/2019 08:04 AM
    Something has to be done the standard of driving in this Country has become that of a Third World Country. The lack of Traffic Police has produced a couldn't care less attitude of I'm not going to get caught so I'll drive like I want.

    The driving test must be very easy now when you see some of the young clowns (yes there are OLD ones as well) with a complete disregard for anyone else.

    I passed my driving test aged 19 twelve months later I was as a memberof the emergency services and driving was one of the skills which you could not drop your standards. On a 4 week course driving hundreds of miles a week you were severely admonished if you couldn't immediately tell the Instructor what was the last road sign you passed and giving a commentary of what you were doing and why and what dangers were ahead or behind as also not turning to your rear view mirror every few seconds earned you another tongue lashing.

    Being aware of what is going on around you is an eye opener as a large %age of drivers approaching you are looking down obviously at a mobile phone. A 12 month ban for using a mobile phone is long overdue with longer bans for subsequent offences coupled with it.

    The crackdown has got to be on new drivers to try and prevent the development of bad habits with perhaps further assessments for "experienced" drivers at various time periods to try and get some sort of etiquette into driving safely.

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  5. Lamparilla says:18/07/2019 10:36 AM
    The only 'near miss' I've had in Southport was a couple of years ago when I was turning right into Lulworth Road at the Weld Road traffic lights.

    As I made the turn, a police van came out of nowhere through the red light from the direction of town, with no sirens or lights.

    I swerved to avoid him and grazed the kerb on the opposite side. As I went past the van, the driver, with a sheepish look on his face, raised his hand apologetically and put the siren on.

    I should have reported it, but I knew what would happen: he had a witness in the passenger seat, I didn't.

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  7. local says:19/07/2019 08:09 AM
    The problem is clearly with the test and its assessment of fitness to drive.

    It just isn't performing its function.

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  9. gazaprop says:19/07/2019 09:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    The problem is clearly with the test and its assessment of fitness to drive.

    It just isn't performing its function.

    I think to some extent you're correct and perhaps the emphasis should shift from cramming for a one off practical assessment to a graduated test process over twelve months or so.
    For example 4 separate tests to be completed over a 24 month period in which the pass criteria, (yet to be determined but practical driving related), become ever more rigorous.
    The successful completion of each segment grants increased driving rights. i.e pass section one and you can drive a vehicle outside of peak times with a 'full' licence holder present not exceeding 30mph, pass section two and you get to drive outside of peak times alone not exceeding 30mph, passing section three would allow driving during peak times and on dual carriageways not exceeding 50mph.
    Perhaps passing section four would allow night time driving and the use of motorways.
    Compliance of the criteria could be monitored by in car cameras or 'black box' technology with digressions resulting in going back a section or to the start.

  10. gsgsgs says:19/07/2019 12:03 PM
    Surely all this should be covered in the lessons, were practical all driving situations should he covered. I'm amazed how many people I hear saying 'I don't druve at night' or 'I don't drive in the wet' well sorry you shouldn't be driving at all then. Whilst having lessons a certain number should be at night, in the wet, in a city or at least a busy town. An driving instructor shouldn't be putting people forward for tests if the learner hasn't or won't drive in those conditions and show they are capable of doing so!

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  12. local says:20/07/2019 09:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by gsgsgs View Post
    Surely all this should be covered in the lessons, were practical all driving situations should he covered. I'm amazed how many people I hear saying 'I don't druve at night' or 'I don't drive in the wet' well sorry you shouldn't be driving at all then. Whilst having lessons a certain number should be at night, in the wet, in a city or at least a busy town. An driving instructor shouldn't be putting people forward for tests if the learner hasn't or won't drive in those conditions and show they are capable of doing so!


    The night bit is straight forward but the rain is a bit harder to time a lesson for.

  13. gsgsgs says:20/07/2019 11:19 AM
    Should there be a cap on how many times you can attempt to pass the practical test?

    BBC News - Learner driver took 21 practical tests in a year, DVSA data shows
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49046226


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